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How the 0/15/36 build works
Survival to Lacerating Strikes, Forever's new final talent, with Lightning Reflexes and Predator's Edge maxed and Deterrence and Counterattack for safety. Resourcefulness, Expose Prey and Strider Kick are also new.
Fifteen Marksmanship points buy Lethal Attacks, Efficiency and Careful Aim.
Leveling a Survival Hunter
We don't give Survival its own leveling route: most players level as another Hunter spec and switch at 60. Level with one of these, one talent point a level from 10, then respec into the build above:
Every talent in the Survival Hunter build
Each talent with its Forever tooltip at the rank the build takes.
Marksmanship· 15 points
Lethal Attacks 5/5New in Forever
Increases your critical strike chance with all attacks by 5%.
Efficiency 5/5
Reduces the Mana cost of your Shots, Stings, and melee abilities by 15%.
Careful Aim 5/5New in Forever
Increases your Attack Power by 100% of your Intellect.
Survival· 36 points
Improved Tracking 5/5New in Forever
While tracking Beasts, Demons, Dragonkin, Elementals, Giants, Humanoids, or Undead, all damage you deal to the tracked creature type is increased by 5%.
Deflection 5/5
Increases your Parry chance by 5%.
Savage Strikes 2/2
Increases the critical strike chance of all your melee abilities by 4%.
Survivalist 3/5
Increases your total Health by 6%.
Surefooted 3/3
Increases your hit chance by 3% and reduces the duration of movement impairing effects on you by 30%.
Deterrence 1/1
When activated, increases your Dodge and Parry chance by 25% for 10 sec.
Predator's Edge 5/5New in Forever
Increases your melee critical strike damage by 30% and your Off Hand weapon damage by 50%.
Counterattack 1/1
A strike that becomes active after parrying an opponent's attack. This attack deals 50% weapon damage plus 26 and immobilizes the target for 5 sec. Counterattack cannot be blocked, dodged, or parried.
Resourcefulness 2/2New in Forever
Reduces the mana cost of your Trap abilities and melee abilities by 60%. In addition, your critical strikes can allow 50% of your Mana regeneration to continue while casting for 30 sec.
Expose Prey 2/2New in Forever
Your attacks against targets with Hunter's Mark have a 10% chance to activate your Mongoose Bite for 10 sec.
Strider Kick 1/1New in Forever
A powerful kick that deals 100% melee weapon damage and increases movement speed by 30% for 3 sec.
Lightning Reflexes 5/5
Increases your Agility by 10%.
Lacerating Strikes 1/1New in Forever
Your Mongoose Bite also causes the target to Bleed for damage equal to 40% of the damage done by Mongoose Bite over 21 sec
New Survival talents in WoW Forever
The 8 talents in Forever's Survival tree that Classic does not have, shown at full rank. Another 7 carry over from Classic with different ranks, positions or numbers.
Improved Tracking · row 1, 5 ranks
While tracking Beasts, Demons, Dragonkin, Elementals, Giants, Humanoids, or Undead, all damage you deal to the tracked creature type is increased by 5%.
Survival Tactics · row 4, 2 ranks
Increases your chance to hit with your Trap and Feign Death abilities by 10%.
Predator's Edge · row 4, 5 ranks
Increases your melee critical strike damage by 30% and your Off Hand weapon damage by 50%.
Resourcefulness · row 5, 2 ranks
Reduces the mana cost of your Trap abilities and melee abilities by 60%. In addition, your critical strikes can allow 50% of your Mana regeneration to continue while casting for 30 sec.
Expose Prey · row 5, 2 ranks
Your attacks against targets with Hunter's Mark have a 10% chance to activate your Mongoose Bite for 10 sec.
Survivalist's Discipline · row 5, 2 ranks
Reduces the cooldown of your Trap and Deterrence abilities by 40%.
Strider Kick · row 5, 1 rank
A powerful kick that deals 100% melee weapon damage and increases movement speed by 30% for 3 sec.
Lacerating Strikes · row 7, 1 rank
Your Mongoose Bite also causes the target to Bleed for damage equal to 40% of the damage done by Mongoose Bite over 21 sec
Questions
What are the best SV Hunter talents in WoW Forever?
Our recommended Survival Hunter build is 0/15/36: Survival to Lacerating Strikes, Careful Aim from Marksmanship. It is one of the Forever sim's preset builds. Nobody has played a level 60 yet, so treat it as a starting point until launch on 4 November.
Are WoW Forever's Survival talents the same as Classic's?
No. Forever's Survival tree has 18 talents, and 8 of them do not exist in Classic: Improved Tracking, Survival Tactics, Predator's Edge, Resourcefulness, Expose Prey, Survivalist's Discipline, Strider Kick and Lacerating Strikes. Another 7 have different ranks, positions or numbers. The tree is still seven rows deep, and each row still needs five points spent above it.
What is the Survival 31-point talent in WoW Forever?
Lacerating Strikes, which is new in Forever. Your Mongoose Bite also causes the target to Bleed for damage equal to 40% of the damage done by Mongoose Bite over 21 sec
How should I level a Survival Hunter in WoW Forever?
Level as Beast Mastery Hunter or Marksmanship Hunter, then respec to Survival at 60. Few players level as Survival, so we give the leveling routes on those pages: one talent point a level from 10, with no respec on the way.
How many talent points do you get in WoW Forever?
51 at level 60, one per level from level 10, as in Classic. The Legacy perk Talented starts them at level 5 instead, which matters for alts while levelling.
Where does this talent data come from?
From the WoW Forever beta client's own talent tables (build 1.60.1.70338), not from Classic. Every tooltip on this page is rendered from the client's spell data, and we checked them against the numbers the beta's own tooltips show. The trees can still change before launch.
