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How the 9/0/42 build works
Retribution to Twist of Light, the tree's new final talent, with Conviction, Vengeance, Seal of Command and Repentance on the way. Forever also adds Holy Conduit, Sanctified Judgement, Sacred Arbiter, Champion of the Light and Instrument of Law, and this build takes all five.
Nine Holy points go to Divine Strength and Forever's Improved Seals. The alternative stops Retribution at 33 points for a deeper Holy side.
Retribution Paladin leveling build
One talent point a level from 10 to 60, in this order, ending at 15/0/36 without a respec. Pick the Leveling tab above and drag the level slider to watch the trees fill in.
Levels 10–19
Benediction cuts the mana cost of every instant spell and ability, which is most of what you press, and Conviction adds 5% crit.
Levels 20–29
Seal of Command at 20. Sanctified Judgement returns 60% of the judged seal's mana, Pursuit of Justice is 15% run speed, Sacred Arbiter makes Holy Strike hit 20% harder and refresh your Judgements, and Vindication weakens what you hit.
Levels 30–40
Vengeance stacks up to 9% damage after crits, Two-Handed Weapon Specialization adds 6%, Improved Judgement shortens Judgement's cooldown, and Champion of the Light turns Intellect into spell damage. Twist of Light at 40 makes seals cheaper and keeps the old seal's effect for one swing when you change seals.
Levels 41–60
Holy for Divine Strength, Improved Seals (15% more seal and Judgement damage) and Divine Intellect, Purifying Power for faster Exorcisms, then Eye for an Eye and Instrument of Law back in Retribution.
| Level | Talent | Tree |
|---|---|---|
| 10–14 | Benediction 5/5 | Retribution |
| 15–19 | Conviction 5/5 | Retribution |
| 20 | Seal of Command 1/1 | Retribution |
| 21–23 | Sanctified Judgement 3/3 | Retribution |
| 24 | Pursuit of Justice 1/2 | Retribution |
| 25 | Sacred Arbiter 1/1 | Retribution |
| 26 | Pursuit of Justice 2/2 | Retribution |
| 27–29 | Vindication 3/3 | Retribution |
| 30–32 | Vengeance 3/3 | Retribution |
| 33–35 | Two-Handed Weapon Specialization 3/3 | Retribution |
| 36–37 | Improved Judgement 2/2 | Retribution |
| 38–39 | Champion of the Light 2/3 | Retribution |
| 40 | Twist of Light 1/1 | Retribution |
| 41–45 | Divine Strength 5/5 | Holy |
| 46–48 | Improved Seals 3/3 | Holy |
| 49–50 | Divine Intellect 2/5 | Holy |
| 51–52 | Purifying Power 2/2 | Holy |
| 53–55 | Divine Intellect 5/5 | Holy |
| 56 | Champion of the Light 3/3 | Retribution |
| 57–58 | Eye for an Eye 2/2 | Retribution |
| 59–60 | Instrument of Law 2/2 | Retribution |
Rather skip the climb? The leveling service takes your character to 60 on your realm.
Every talent in the Retribution Paladin raid build
Each talent with its Forever tooltip at the rank the build takes.
Holy· 9 points
Divine Strength 5/5
Increases your Strength by 10%.
Divine Intellect 1/5
Increases your total Intellect by 2%.
Improved Seals 3/3New in Forever
Increases the damage done by your Seals and Judgements by 15%.
Retribution· 42 points
Deflection 5/5
Increases your Parry chance by 5%.
Benediction 5/5
Reduces the Mana cost of all instant cast spells and abilities by 10%.
Improved Judgement 2/2
Decreases the cooldown of your Judgement ability by 2 sec.
Holy Conduit 2/2New in Forever
Reduces the mana cost of your Consecration, Holy Wrath, Exorcism, and Hammer of Wrath spells by 40%.
Conviction 5/5
Improves your chance to get a critical strike with melee attacks by 5%.
Vindication 3/3
Gives your damaging melee attacks a chance to reduce the target's Attack Power by 6, and increase your Attack Power by 3% for 30 sec.
Sanctified Judgement 3/3New in Forever
Gives your Judgement ability a 100% chance to return 60% of the Mana cost of the judged seal.
Seal of Command 1/1
Gives the Paladin a chance to deal additional Holy damage equal to 70% of normal weapon damage. Only one Seal can be active on the Paladin at any one time. Lasts 30 sec. Unleashing this Seal's energy will judge an enemy, instantly causing 48.5 Holy damage, 97 if the target is stunned or incapacitated.
Pursuit of Justice 2/2
Increases movement speed and mounted movement speed by 15%. This does not stack with other movement speed increasing effects.
Sacred Arbiter 1/1New in Forever
Increases the damage of your Holy Strike ability by 20% and causes it to refresh all Judgement effects on the target.
Two-Handed Weapon Specialization 3/3
Increases the damage you deal with two-handed melee weapons by 6%.
Vengeance 3/3
Increases your Physical and Holy damage dealt by 3% for 30 sec after landing a non-periodic critical strike. Stacks up to 3 times.
Repentance 1/1
Puts the enemy target in a state of meditation, incapacitating them for up to 6 sec. Any damage caused will awaken the target. Only works against Humanoids.
Champion of the Light 3/3New in Forever
Increases your spell damage by up to 60% of your Intellect.
Instrument of Law 2/2New in Forever
Reduces the cast time of your Hammer of Wrath by 1.0 sec, and reduces all threat you generate by 20% while Righteous Fury is not active.
Twist of Light 1/1New in Forever
Reduces the Mana cost of your Seal spells by 20%, and when you replace your Seal of Command, Seal of Righteousness, Seal of Fury, or Seal of Justice with a different Seal, you gain an Echo of that Seal. Your next melee attack applies the replaced Seal's effects, consuming the Echo.
New Retribution talents in WoW Forever
The 6 talents in Forever's Retribution tree that Classic does not have, shown at full rank. Another 7 carry over from Classic with different ranks, positions or numbers.
Holy Conduit · row 2, 2 ranks
Reduces the mana cost of your Consecration, Holy Wrath, Exorcism, and Hammer of Wrath spells by 40%.
Sanctified Judgement · row 3, 3 ranks
Gives your Judgement ability a 100% chance to return 60% of the Mana cost of the judged seal.
Sacred Arbiter · row 4, 1 rank
Increases the damage of your Holy Strike ability by 20% and causes it to refresh all Judgement effects on the target.
Champion of the Light · row 6, 3 ranks
Increases your spell damage by up to 60% of your Intellect.
Instrument of Law · row 6, 2 ranks
Reduces the cast time of your Hammer of Wrath by 1.0 sec, and reduces all threat you generate by 20% while Righteous Fury is not active.
Twist of Light · row 7, 1 rank
Reduces the Mana cost of your Seal spells by 20%, and when you replace your Seal of Command, Seal of Righteousness, Seal of Fury, or Seal of Justice with a different Seal, you gain an Echo of that Seal. Your next melee attack applies the replaced Seal's effects, consuming the Echo.
Questions
What are the best Ret Paladin talents in WoW Forever?
Our recommended Retribution Paladin build is 9/0/42: Two-hander Retribution to Twist of Light. It is one of the Forever sim's preset builds. Nobody has played a level 60 yet, so treat it as a starting point until launch on 4 November.
Are WoW Forever's Retribution talents the same as Classic's?
No. Forever's Retribution tree has 17 talents, and 6 of them do not exist in Classic: Holy Conduit, Sanctified Judgement, Sacred Arbiter, Champion of the Light, Instrument of Law and Twist of Light. Another 7 have different ranks, positions or numbers. The tree is still seven rows deep, and each row still needs five points spent above it.
What is the Retribution 31-point talent in WoW Forever?
Twist of Light, which is new in Forever. Reduces the Mana cost of your Seal spells by 20%, and when you replace your Seal of Command, Seal of Righteousness, Seal of Fury, or Seal of Justice with a different Seal, you gain an Echo of that Seal. Your next melee attack applies the replaced Seal's effects, consuming the Echo.
What is the best Retribution Paladin leveling build in WoW Forever?
Ours takes one point a level from 10 to 60 with no respec and ends at 15/0/36. It picks up Seal of Command at 20, Sacred Arbiter at 25 and Twist of Light at 40. The full order is on this page.
How many talent points do you get in WoW Forever?
51 at level 60, one per level from level 10, as in Classic. The Legacy perk Talented starts them at level 5 instead, which matters for alts while levelling.
Where does this talent data come from?
From the WoW Forever beta client's own talent tables (build 1.60.1.70338), not from Classic. Every tooltip on this page is rendered from the client's spell data, and we checked them against the numbers the beta's own tooltips show. The trees can still change before launch.
