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How the 39/12/0 build works
A 39-point Arms build for two-handed raid damage, ending in Mortal Strike. It takes all four talents Forever adds to Arms: Improved Tactical Mastery, Spearing Strike, Bloodthrill and Weaponmaster, whose bonus depends on the weapon type you swing.
The last 12 points buy Booming Voice and Cruelty in Fury, with two left in Unbridled Wrath for rage. Improved Slam is maxed: in Forever it shortens Slam's cast and stops it delaying your swing.
Arms Warrior leveling build
One talent point a level from 10 to 60, in this order, ending at 31/20/0 without a respec. Pick the Leveling tab above and drag the level slider to watch the trees fill in.
Levels 10–20
Improved Heroic Strike makes your Rage dump cheaper and Improved Rend sets up Deep Wounds. Improved Tactical Mastery keeps up to 15 more Rage when you change stances, so switching mid-fight costs little.
Levels 21–30
Deep Wounds makes your crits bleed, Anger Management generates Rage on its own, and Impale raises crit damage. Two-Handed Weapon Specialization adds 3% damage, and Sweeping Strikes at 30 makes your next 5 attacks hit a second enemy.
Levels 31–40
Weaponmaster rewards whatever two-hander you have: crit with an axe or polearm, armor penetration with a mace or staff, extra attacks with a sword. Improved Overpower and Improved Charge fill the gap, and Mortal Strike at 40 becomes your main attack.
Levels 41–60
Into Fury: Cruelty for 5% crit, Unbridled Wrath for Rage, Blood Craze to heal after big hits, Piercing Howl for runners, and Enrage for 10% more damage after you are hit.
| Level | Talent | Tree |
|---|---|---|
| 10–12 | Improved Heroic Strike 3/3 | Arms |
| 13–15 | Improved Rend 3/3 | Arms |
| 16–20 | Improved Tactical Mastery 5/5 | Arms |
| 21–23 | Deep Wounds 3/3 | Arms |
| 24 | Anger Management 1/1 | Arms |
| 25–26 | Impale 2/2 | Arms |
| 27–29 | Two-Handed Weapon Specialization 3/3 | Arms |
| 30 | Sweeping Strikes 1/1 | Arms |
| 31–35 | Weaponmaster 5/5 | Arms |
| 36–37 | Improved Overpower 2/2 | Arms |
| 38–39 | Improved Charge 2/2 | Arms |
| 40 | Mortal Strike 1/1 | Arms |
| 41–45 | Cruelty 5/5 | Fury |
| 46–50 | Unbridled Wrath 5/5 | Fury |
| 51–53 | Blood Craze 3/3 | Fury |
| 54 | Piercing Howl 1/1 | Fury |
| 55 | Booming Voice 1/5 | Fury |
| 56–60 | Enrage 5/5 | Fury |
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Every talent in the Arms Warrior raid build
Each talent with its Forever tooltip at the rank the build takes.
Arms· 39 points
Improved Heroic Strike 3/3
Reduces the cost of your Heroic Strike ability by 3 Rage.
Deflection 2/5
Increases your Parry chance by 2%.
Improved Rend 3/3
Increases the Bleed damage done by your Rend ability by 35%.
Improved Tactical Mastery 5/5New in Forever
Tactical Mastery lets you retain up to an additional 15 Rage when you change stances.
Improved Overpower 2/2
Increases the critical strike chance of your Overpower ability by 50%.
Anger Management 1/1
Generates 1 Rage every 3 sec while in combat, and reduces Rage loss while out of combat by 30%.
Deep Wounds 3/3
Your critical strikes cause your opponent to Bleed, dealing 60% of your melee weapon's average damage over 12 sec.
Spearing Strike 1/1New in Forever
A brutal attack that deals 40% weapon damage. Deals an additional 80% weapon damage against Giants, Dragonkin, and mounted targets. Mounted targets are dismounted.
Two-Handed Weapon Specialization 3/3
Increases the damage you deal with two-handed melee weapons by 3%.
Impale 2/2
Increases the critical strike damage bonus of your abilities by 20%.
Bloodthrill 5/5New in Forever
Your Main Hand melee attacks against enemies afflicted by your Rend have a 20% chance to allow the use of your Overpower ability on the target. Lasts 6 sec.
Sweeping Strikes 1/1
Your next 5 melee attacks strike an additional nearby opponent.
Weaponmaster 5/5New in Forever
Gives your melee weapon attacks a benefit depending on the weapon. Axe/Polearm: Increases your critical strike chance by 5%. Mace/Staff: Your attacks ignore 15% of your target's armor. Sword: Your successful melee attacks have a 5% chance to trigger an extra attack on the target.
Improved Slam 2/2
Reduces the global cooldown and cast time of your Slam ability by 0.50 sec. In addition, Slam no longer interrupts or delays your melee swing and Slam's cooldown is reduced by 3.0 sec.
Mortal Strike 1/1
A vicious strike that deals weapon damage plus 85 and wounds the target, reducing the effectiveness of any healing by 50% for 10 sec.
Fury· 12 points
Booming Voice 5/5
Increases the area of effect of your Shouts by 50% and reduces their Rage cost by 25%.
Cruelty 5/5
Improves your chance to get a critical strike with melee attacks by 5%.
Unbridled Wrath 2/5
Gives you a 24% chance to generate 1 additional Rage when you deal melee damage with a weapon.
New Arms talents in WoW Forever
The 4 talents in Forever's Arms tree that Classic does not have, shown at full rank. Another 9 carry over from Classic with different ranks, positions or numbers.
Improved Tactical Mastery · row 2, 5 ranks
Tactical Mastery lets you retain up to an additional 15 Rage when you change stances.
Spearing Strike · row 4, 1 rank
A brutal attack that deals 40% weapon damage. Deals an additional 80% weapon damage against Giants, Dragonkin, and mounted targets. Mounted targets are dismounted.
Bloodthrill · row 5, 5 ranks
Your Main Hand melee attacks against enemies afflicted by your Rend have a 20% chance to allow the use of your Overpower ability on the target. Lasts 6 sec.
Weaponmaster · row 5, 5 ranks
Gives your melee weapon attacks a benefit depending on the weapon. Axe/Polearm: Increases your critical strike chance by 5%. Mace/Staff: Your attacks ignore 15% of your target's armor. Sword: Your successful melee attacks have a 5% chance to trigger an extra attack on the target.
Questions
What are the best Arms Warrior talents in WoW Forever?
Our recommended Arms Warrior build is 39/12/0: Two-handed Arms down to Mortal Strike, Cruelty from Fury. It is one of the Forever sim's preset builds. Nobody has played a level 60 yet, so treat it as a starting point until launch on 4 November.
Are WoW Forever's Arms talents the same as Classic's?
No. Forever's Arms tree has 17 talents, and 4 of them do not exist in Classic: Improved Tactical Mastery, Spearing Strike, Bloodthrill and Weaponmaster. Another 9 have different ranks, positions or numbers. The tree is still seven rows deep, and each row still needs five points spent above it.
What is the Arms 31-point talent in WoW Forever?
Mortal Strike. A vicious strike that deals weapon damage plus 85 and wounds the target, reducing the effectiveness of any healing by 50% for 10 sec.
What is the best Arms Warrior leveling build in WoW Forever?
Ours takes one point a level from 10 to 60 with no respec and ends at 31/20/0. It picks up Anger Management at 24, Sweeping Strikes at 30, Mortal Strike at 40 and Piercing Howl at 54. The full order is on this page.
How many talent points do you get in WoW Forever?
51 at level 60, one per level from level 10, as in Classic. The Legacy perk Talented starts them at level 5 instead, which matters for alts while levelling.
Where does this talent data come from?
From the WoW Forever beta client's own talent tables (build 1.60.1.70338), not from Classic. Every tooltip on this page is rendered from the client's spell data, and we checked them against the numbers the beta's own tooltips show. The trees can still change before launch.
