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Subtlety Rogue BiS

WoW Forever · Melee DPS ·

The PvP rogue: openers, burst and survival.

No item list exists yet, anywhere. Forever's level 60 loot has not been published. This page sets out how a Subtlety Rogue gears under Classic rules, and the list fills in as each phase is datamined.

On this page

Subtlety Rogue stat priority

  1. 1Agility
  2. 2Weapon damageAmbush and Backstab hit for a multiple of a dagger's damage.
  3. 3StaminaIn PvP, surviving the first stun-break matters.
  4. 4Hit, critical strike
  5. 5Attack power

Caps and breakpoints

StatTargetWhy
Melee hitabout 9%Removes misses on special attacks against a raid boss. Hit from talents counts towards it.

Classic values against a level 63 raid boss. Forever has not published its own.

How a Subtlety Rogue gears

Subtlety was rarely played in Classic raids; its strength is opening on a target from stealth. The weapon that matters is a high-damage main-hand dagger, because Ambush and Backstab scale with its damage, not its speed.

Hemorrhage builds were the exception, and those preferred a slow sword or mace instead.

  • For dagger builds, look at the top-end damage of the main hand, not its damage per second.
  • PvP lists carry more stamina than raid lists: do not copy one onto the other.

The Subtlety Rogue BiS list

Each phase below becomes a slot-by-slot list, with where every piece drops, as soon as its loot is datamined. Until then, gear by the stat priority above.

  1. Pre-raidMid-November 2026

    Level 55–60 dungeon loot, crafted pieces, quest rewards and reputation. The dungeon half can be built once the level 60 tables are datamined after launch on 4 November.

  2. The Barrow Deeps9 December 2026

    Ten players, eight bosses. Loot tables have not been published.

  3. Hyjal Summit9 December 2026

    Twenty players, thirteen bosses. Loot tables have not been published.

  4. Onyxia's Lair9 December 2026

    Forty players, one boss. Returning from Classic, but Forever has not said whether its loot table is the same.

  • HeadNot yet known
  • NeckNot yet known
  • ShouldersNot yet known
  • BackNot yet known
  • ChestNot yet known
  • WristNot yet known
  • HandsNot yet known
  • WaistNot yet known
  • LegsNot yet known
  • FeetNot yet known
  • FingerNot yet known
  • FingerNot yet known
  • TrinketNot yet known
  • TrinketNot yet known
  • Main handNot yet known
  • Off handNot yet known
  • Ranged / relicNot yet known

Not confirmed yet

  • Class talents and whether any spec has been reworked
  • Combat formulas: hit, crit and defense caps may not match Classic
  • Racials, including which races get weapon skill
  • Raid loot tables and tier sets for all three raids
  • Level 55–60 dungeon loot: the beta stops at level 30

More on what is and is not known in the pre-raid preparation guide and the raids guide.

Questions

What is the Subtlety Rogue BiS list in WoW Forever?

There is no confirmed list yet. Raid loot is published with the raids on 9 December 2026, and the level 55–60 dungeon tables are not in the beta. This page carries the stat priority now and adds each phase's items as they are datamined.

What is the Subtlety Rogue stat priority?

Under Classic rules: Agility, then Weapon damage, then Stamina, then Hit, critical strike, then Attack power. Forever has not published its talents, so this is Classic's order until it does.

What is the Subtlety Rogue hit cap?

Melee hit: about 9%. Removes misses on special attacks against a raid boss. Hit from talents counts towards it.

Can I use a Classic Subtlety Rogue BiS list for WoW Forever?

Only as a guide to stats. Blizzard reworked the loot of every dungeon boss for Forever, raising unique boss items to blue and changing others, and two of the three raids are new. Classic item names may come back with different stats.

When will the Subtlety Rogue pre-raid BiS be known?

The dungeon half from mid-November 2026, once level 55–60 loot is datamined after the 4 November launch. Raid items from 9 December 2026.

What armour does a Rogue wear?

Leather. Weapons: Daggers, one-handed swords, maces and fist weapons; bows, guns, crossbows and thrown.

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